Friday, July 29, 2011

Milwaukee 6955-20 12-Inch Sliding Dual Bevel Miter Saw with Digital Miter Angle Fine Adjust


I am a rough and trim carpentry, and I got this so about 5 months ago. I have used many different 12 "controls from the new Makita, new Bosch DeWalt new. This is the best I've used.

Let me start by saying it has a 0 degree position BEVEL STOP! Do not be discouraged by all the other comments here, do not say it because they obviously do not know how they are tapered adjustment lever works. It has two modes. You can drag it all the way up so you can move it in any way you wish, or if you pull it halfway up, it will click on your various relaxation INLCUDING 0 degrees!

I begin with the weaknesses, there is not much:

First, as mentioned by one of the other reviewers, is the right side of the fence does not slide. This is because when the saw is beveled on the right, the engine house in the road and hits the fence. You can remove the top portion of the fence on this side, but then you are left with only a 1 inch extra fences, so when you use a legal aspect, you will always support the topic on the left side and right side cut-off end. Kind of disappointing, but you just have to make your cuts accordingly.

Another weakness (but small) once already mentioned, are no clips on the topic. I have never used one before because I always have been created with a booth that gives good support, but for those of you who frequently use, there is something to check out. I'm not sure if they even make one for it ... ? None of these flaws was enough for me to cut the score to 4 stars, however.

Now good things they Strengths:

Dust extraction. I do not know why one reviewer put it as a weakness. Maybe he waited for a miter saw to collect any dust? I know of no tool that will do this without using any kind of shop Vac. I agree with D. Trelford that it collects about 50% of the dust. Compared with other miter saw out there, making it excellent!

Deformation. With greater crosscut that you need to expand so all the way out, a steady hand with a steady amount of power over the cut will cause any deflection. Of course, with a 12 "controls you would expect a little bend when fully extended, but this saw is very sturdy. When you surf saw the next time you're at Home Depot or wherever it is you go all the way this looked, trying to force your hand to play on it and compare it with the others. It does a good job and takes a lot of force to move it from side to side. If you get this looked and on the road again you witness someone who wanders cuts, I would be willing to bet on only reason is that a dull knife and no player in the rail slide. It is robust. A bad example of side to side, players I have witnessed in the new Bosch control. I could turn my rock a good 1 / 16 "when you cut around 12 "trim, and it was with a brand new $ 140 CMT blade.

Digital angle readout with micro adjustment. It works very well. You can be in the "Fun" and swing to any angle you want, or you can join the "micro-adjust" mode. It's easy to switch between the two, and there is also dircetions printed on the saw right next to the Lock button. When you do it once or twice is a breeze. As with almost all so when you cut down on the odd angle, to force the screw turning clockwise and tighten it against the table can get it to move out of your brand at a fraction of a degree. This almost never happens with this saw, and even if it does it is perhaps a tenth of a degree. And if that happens, so what because you have a digital display so you know exactly where you are on. It is easy to adjust, and if you are in zero'd of 44.7 degrees and you have to change it for a back-cut on a clear or something, you can call back in exactly where you were by 44.7. I found it very useful, and it did not get in the way or seem "gimmicky" to me at all.

Around the solid. As I mentioned, it works well when shooting, it is also very robust when adjusting the bevel. You do not hold the weight of the saw up as most saws, when you lock the bevel. The table also varies very smooth but feels sturdy at the same time.

Easier than expeceted. Do not get me wrong, it still has some weight behind them, just do not know as much as a tonne compared to some other 12 "sliders out there.

Light. I was just using my experience in a remodel and I was so up in a room with unfinished lighting. I cut the engine, which was very dark (hard to see the pen mark) and on a dreary day with some sun that lights helped a lot. Contrary to one of these lasers. Now it's a gimmick to me. What happens if you use a Freud thin kerfed knife or a Forrest Chopmaster with a full 1 / 8 "cut? Is laser run only on one side of the blade so it does not matter what size cutting you anyway? No, because what if you want cut the other side of the line, do you just guess how thick the blade is? Then there are some lasers that shine on both sides of the blade. easily adjusted? Plus, when you fire your piece and your pen to select frames laser can barely see it ! And for those of you who do not have the best eyesite to begin with ... well it's just something to think about. Screw the laser, I would rather trust my eye sees the knife hit my pen brand.

Adjustable Dado cutting ability. Not that you would use it often, but it's a cool feature, and I am surprised that there are several saws out there that offer it. I think some Hitachi and Makita offers this as well. This is a small plate that bends to respond to an adjustable screw to adjust the cutting depth. Not a deal breaker or anything, but it came in handy when I had to whip together a mini door jamb in an attic crawl space.

Of course all the other things such as cutting capacity with facets and miter, high fences, constant power. All in all, looked awesome. If you're like me, you do well to check out a tool (especially the more expensive of these) as much as possible before making a decision. Hopefully my two cents helped. I think it's a good saw for the price and I have not had any complaints. All the 12 "sliders are about the same price except for the stiff, Master Force, etc. A miter saw I have not used the Festool KAPEX. I wish I could help with that one, but I have not used it so I do not know about can be compared. But at $ 1300 I do not think I have ever come across anyone who has one. But it seems to have too many gadgets and moving parts.

Makita LS1016L 10-Inch Dual Slide Compound Miter Saw with Laser



The LS1016 is an updated 10 "dual bevel slider with some notable improvements over the venerable model LS1013.

Makita has tip-wheel drive now have intermediate reduction gears, traveling motor housing of the saw blade arbor higher than 1013, and also reduces the blade speed down to 3200 rpm. Because of the higher motor placement gives the critical right angle bevel (45 degree) cuts a 11.16 "high boards, an improvement over the 1 1 / 4" for the LS1013. The left 45 Bevel also increases with 2 3 / 8 ". I like to set up a managed double bevel latch makes it easy to use, no matter which side of I approaching this check (behind the saw) from.

Most competitors seem to hang on a belt moving so that the engine away from the arbor to allow dual aspect. This is my second Makita dual tapered knob, and both have had good power and torque to cut through all the hard and soft wood and timber handling, which sometimes have internal tension tie in the newspaper (the only time I really notice the full use of torque from someone so .) Makita is Bevel and spur gear train provides a heartbeat and do it while a last blade speed of 3200 rpm. In 1013 was 3700 rpm, all of the competitive situation saws seem to have cut rates for 4700 through 5200 rpm. I do not know if the higher spped is to reduce stress on the belt, but it certainly increases the screaming of a high speed blade both spun up and cut wood. For a 10 inch this is my quietest seen yet. Also worth mentioning is that the soft starter is so effective, I can find hardly any recoil when it starts the engine at full speed ready to cut without causing any wait on my side.

In 1013 had a passive spring loaded tension to zero degree tilt, while this model has a stop latch manually with a push button to pop by when you move into a legal aspect. Unfortunately, this internal latch broke on the first of two saws are delivered to me. I think it took a drop during transport, causing internal injuries. Although I preferred the earlier relaxation of speed, the system works well for me. I note that 45 left and right end are tough characters that are adjustable with set screws. If you are really pressed to do so, you may fear as much as 47 degrees Celsius in either direction, but with a loss of STOP mode. For each plate baseboard miter as high as 4 inches or so, you can only use the miter to cut a few corners of the room that is narrower than 90 degrees, however, before being forced to cut on the flat instead of the fence.

At the miter, it is 60 degrees to the right, which is good (I'm away, why anyone would MFG saw one that goes to 57 degrees ...) This also goes back 52nd Now I'm wondering why none of the producers will give me the ability to go 60 degrees to the left. For that saw the table would increase the base size is not more than 2 1 / 4 "in width left of center and probably add 2 pounds of weight. I would pay for the extra aluminum and even put up with the extra 2 inches of the truck and definitely make room for it in my workshop. (I am a general contractor, build houses and build fine furniture and custom cabinets in both my own sites and on-site.)

The relaxation of the miter settings are clear and miter lock seems to be very tight.

I have not met a miter saw, but it is super effective for dust control, it can not excel at either. (For use in my shop, my miter saw table area has a back plate, with a large bucket for a 4 "dust system on the one hand and a small fan spray of lead dust on the scoop from the opposite side.)

The biggest concern has been the linear bearings on the top set of runners. As the first reviewer noticed these layers are very tough at first. I have seen many other users have noticed this in several wood and contracting arenas (my review and writing is within a few weeks of this product into the street). I now use the second of these saws sent to me. At first it seemed roughness layer has been broken in 90% (about one week of use) and is almost smooth. The other replacements have been in use now for 4 days and is slowly becoming smoother in operation. Only time will tell if it is completely smooth. It seems a little odd that Makita could do the bottom set of linear bearings silky smooth and the top is (or at least started) terrible (maybe it's a double linear for the bottom bars). Why it is designed with two rails (top and bottom) and two sets of linear bearings, I have not completely melted. What I will note is that the operational 1013 single set "of" transport rails requires a clear desk space behind the saw when working in the field. This 1016 is more forgiving in a tight job.

My second remark is poorly done documentation. Illustrations are small and poorly marked and does not match the text well. Language is finished with the worst combination of English second language, not a technical writer, as far as I can interpret. Yes I know that Makita sales have slid 15% in the current economy, but for a 300 billion yen company, what about a thousand dollars to have a good technical English writer of the manual! I do not expect a guide on how to do woodworking, but I would not wonder which part refers to the adjustments or to use the saw.

I would also like to see Makita include side extensions. The holes of what is processed in the base, but I can not find that I can buy them. I would gladly pay a few dollars more to get them to enter or at least they should be available for sale. There are occasions when those few extra inches of support appreciated but I can not justify getting a full miter saw stand for the job.

Quality control (other than the rough upper linear bearings) are great. Working in turn table and the table side wings are flat and smooth. I miss the big record player for 1013, and the support it provides for a wider forum, but I guess a small record player was a need for a broader setting miter angle. The new fences are also welcome to offer significantly greater support on both sides of the wing than in 1013, and appears to be a tougher stance than the "flip-over" high close support of the vertical aspects (I've had two of the cover fence on the previous Saw breaks sudden capture of the wood, while my team has had them on the ground). The sliding upper fence is a good solution to include both high vertical support and clearance for bevel cuts.

Although the quality, I had come close to ordering a deep blue so, but had seen a reviewer note on adjusting arbor for sliding shaft. Of the two 1016 have been delivered to me, the first was out of sync a little tiny hairs (this is one which I suppose was a decrease in transit), the other is almost dead. If you make a plunge cut on the back of the sliding travel and make a separate second input on the front of gliding flight (not the picture looked, while in the woods, but make two separate crashes) into two separate parts must be dead adjustment. If you see a shift in the saw Kerff means that the blade arbor is out of sync and the blade can not slip or trip straight into the kerf and you will be binding when the slides and wavy cuts, burnt edges. . . etc. I do not believe that all manufacturers make this adjustable, so it's either true or it is a lemon. BTW the supplied ATB saw blade is fantastic, I had ordered a neg rake Freud to put on this saw, but I will wait until the plant needs to be sharpened knife.

All in all, I like this new version from Makita, and expects to serve me and I hope that the unevenness of the upper linear completely disappear soon.

Bosch 5312 12-Inch Dual Bevel Slide Compound Miter Saw


I bought this saw that it came w / a free weightlessness miter saw stand. It was a promo. at Lowe's ... I could not resist. To prevent this review from being redundant, I agree with all points in Eric's review. What I would add is that if you are considering using this to miter joints in the bar (as opposed to clear the corner, it's a dream to use, I have owned and used Makita LS1214F years. I bought it because of its assessments at the time and some of its "functions" as a diagram on how to cut crown mldg. if it is flat.

When I first used the Bosch, the first thing I noticed that there was no crown mldg. corner chart. Disappointed. Please correct angles on the crown corners can be mentally demanding, especially when you cut the crown when it is flat on his back on the saw table (In this situation it is much faster than back it up against the fence, if you can get past the conceptual / math part). You need to hit places like 31.6 just make a clean corner. So I drew a picture on the fence, just think how often I refer to the table on the Makita.

Within the first cut on the Bosch, I realized that I did not need the diagram for the corners. For many reasons, Bosch is much more intuitive and all the necessary angles to cut corners is very clearly marked, and many have "stop" to really precise angles. I have taken so long, but I will say that I have made at least 40 in and outside corners w / OA only backwards or upside down and cut w / a lot less aggravation and thought. A very different experience w / Makita.

By the way, is zero gravity to stand Cats Meow. But both are heavy, but there's nothing like having a miter saw on a stable surface that can support 12 'Crown comfortably roll around from room to room w / no set time colapse approximately 4'x3'x3' and stow away in a corner of the end of the day in seconds. The frame is compatible w / many others saw the brand as well.

DEWALT DW716 15 Amp 12-Inch Double-Bevel Compound Miter Saw


I was ready to upgrade from my Delta 10 "miter to a 12" but was waiting for Dewalt to come out with a laser system. I bought this DW716 about 2 weeks ago and so far I love it. I have chosen not to get it sliding miter, because they are not as accurate as the non-moving, especially for the manufacture of furniture. This saw is very powerful and smooth, and the laser works well, although it took a while to get it set up (instructions are marginal at best, so you can roll with it for an hour or more to try to get it to line up in all directions).

One thing I strongly recommend is a RIDGID MS-UV miter stand. I found one at Home Depot, and it is the best miter saw stand in the market and very reasonable price. It folds and unfolds easily, and the wheels make mobility a lot. It is much better than Delta or Dewalt miter saw stand. Dewalt Why not have a folding one with wheels is beyond me, and Delta one is way too small for a 12 "miter. The combination of a condition and a 12" miter needs wheels when it is very heavy. You can leave Dewalt 12 "miter mounted on RIDGID, and even put the standing on the corner of the road when you do not. Anyway, the Amazon does not sell Ridgid MS-UV yet, but Home Depot does.

The DW716 is powered by a 15Amp motor and comes equipped with a 12 "carbide blade that spins at 3600 rpm. The extra tall fences and double bevel has unsurpassed performance. DW716 includes an adjustable stainless steel miter detente with 11 positive stops for the most common miter cuts. The cam lock miter handle eliminates the need to rotate the miter handle to lock miter angle and delivers a fast and stable miter lock. sawmill is equipped with a miter relaxation override which allows the user to override the miter stops and adjust the miter setting desired without was sliding into miter relaxation while the new precise miter system delivers more repeatable and accurate miter angles. The innovative machined base fence design delivers long term fence straightness by providing additional support to the fence. The DW716 provide the ability to cut up to 6-1/2 "base molding against the fence when skewed to the left or right and delivers up to a 2 x 10 races with the innovative back fence design. The DW716 is designed to accept the DW7187 DEWALT adjustable miter saw laser system that provides visibility to the cut path. The saw can be beveled to the left of 0 ˚ - 48 ˚ and the 0 ˚ - 48 ˚ with positive stop at 0 ˚, 45 ˚ and 33.9 ˚ cutting strip plate. With a weight of 44 pounds and is equipped with comfortable side handles on the bottom, DW716 is designed to be extremely portable. The DW716 includes a carbide blade, blade wrench and dust bag

DEWALT DW718 12-Inch Double-Bevel Slide Compound Miter Saw


Bottom line - with only three weeks of use (tons of trim work, light framing, and a large deck) This saw is very good at many things, not big at all. First saws need good wings - period. If you do not come with one, do not review it until you get one (I replaced the stock 40 tooth blade with an upgrade). Secondly, sliding miter saws add a degree of complexity (or diversity, depending on how you look at it) to your work, consider what you really need. If your needs are just tuning - to consider a non-slider. With that said, I have always been a fan of 10inch sliders - they are the most versatile tools you can take to the building site. This model replaces a beautiful old Porter Cable model that I was pretty happy with. Here is my take on the DeWalt. This is a very good looking, basically a soft version of the highly popular DW703 and DW713 fixed models. The fence is an upgrade over those models and the features that make it a worthy competitor to the class leader, Bosch and Makita models.

Here's what I like:
Build quality - solid, Limited tables plastic Square and fences, good picture without playing.
· Some adjustments - the wide angle to the right (60) and left (52) and compound bevel.
· Accuracy - To date (the trim work and a deck of cards) cuts are straight, but sleet or waves (I have not cut 12x is still only 10x and saw with a compound angle arrow straight through the incision)
• Vertical Capacity - cut 6 "high molding vertically.
Earnings before set to Facets - Seven preset to crown both left and right - big time saving feature.

Here's what I'm not so fond of:
· The lock image is a small disc that is still hard for me to find (I would like to have a bigger leverage a little more obvious)
· Dust collection is not large
· The tiles to the right and left is shorter than I'm used to (this applies to Bosch, as well), so I had to adjust how I work a little.
· Set up took longer than I would have preferred - Square and 45 were almost out of the box, adjust all the indicators and make fine adjustments were tough - adjustment screws and indicators moved slightly when tightening them. Vertical alignment of the perpendicular (the principal) was the toughest.
· The long blade is simply not good enough - especially for the money
• There is a bit more expensive than the Bosch and Makita.

This is a very good time - it is good at many things, but not good at any particular element. I compared mostly to the Makita side by side - the engine (higher speed), vertical capacity and the length is cut at a 45 were factors lean in favor of the DeWalt. The Makita has a larger table, which I like a lot (more like my old Porter & cable), but the controls are low, as engineers will tell you encourage more critical in the lead. Most manufacturers now have the pictures higher up. DeWalt used to actually stack the image vertically, but now double horizontal picture appears to be the way to go. The spring that controls the jump motion Makita is just an ordinary wound spring is mounted vertically, it was a start up when you release the handle and the strange feeling of pressure when you pulled down. Also all these saws need a good table or stand - you may be frustrated by a 10-inch slider without clamps or badly set up - see if any complaints of a saw is not really complain about a bad job. Friends swear by their Bosch tool (I have a couple and want `em) and Bosch 10-inch slider is top rated by many, is the DeWalt at least as good, but not much better. So with DW717, DeWalt ends only Bosch and Makita near the top of this forum, not sure it will de-throne no - they are all good choices based on work style and preferences (I still really like the design of the Makita table.) Sustainability DeWalt , and the features I have mentioned, is why I chose DW717. I admit that this review is based on limited use, so I will update it after a few more projects.